Meghan Markle reveals why Mariah Carey's diva 'dig' left her 'squirming' in her chair

The Duchess of Sussex had an awkward moment with guest Mariah Carey on the second episode of her Spotify podcast, Archetypes

Meghan Markle: Mariah Carey's diva 'dig' left duchess 'squirming in my chair'
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Meghan Markle has confessed she felt uncomfortable when Mariah Carey called her a diva on her recently launched podcast, Archetypes. 

Meghan Markle has recalled her discomfort when Mariah Carey called her a diva on her podcast, admitting she launched into a 'quiet revolt' over the unexpected comment. 

The Duchess of Sussex was joined by the US singer on Tuesday for the second episode of Archetypes, The Duality of Diva, for an in-depth conversation on the negative connations surrounding the controversial gendered label. The A-list collaboration comes just a week after Meghan kicked off the Spotify series with a candid discussion alongside Serena Williams on being an ambitious female in our patriarchal society. 

But while the duchess and her tennis champion friend appeared to be on the same page throughout their episode, Meghan and Mariah's chat undeniably had a tad bit more friction. 

Meghan and Mariah

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About 35 minutes into the podcast, the 53-year-old singer boldly challenges her host's rejection of the term 'diva' as part of her royal persona. 

"I think that’s really important for people to remember that there might be this persona, and yes this diva thing we can play into," she says. "I mean, it’s not something I connect to but for you, it’s been a huge part of your…" 

It's at this point that Mariah interjects, "You give us diva moments sometimes, Meghan" - a remark that the duchess didn't seem to receive too kindly. 

"I do [not]! What kind of diva moments do I give you?" she replies. 

"Don’t even act like you [don’t know]…" Mariah playfully snaps back, before clarifying: "It’s the visual, a lot of it is the visual." 

Meghan, Duchess of Sussex attends day two of the Invictus Games 2020 at Zuiderpark on April 17, 2022 in The Hague, Netherlands.

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“Oh, it’s the look," the royal icon says. "See that’s the thing, I associate it differently." 

In a voiceover at the end of the episode, the 40-year-old confessed to listeners that she initially wasn't too happy with the superstar's statements.

"It was all going swimmingly, I mean really well, until that moment happened," Meghan said. "I don’t know about you, but it stopped me in my tracks when she called me a diva." 

The duchess went on to admit that this flippant comment, which immediately sent her into a "sweat", was enough to jeopardize her 'girl crush' on the Grammy-award-winning singer. 

"I started squirming in my chair in this quiet revolt. Like, 'Wait, what? No. What? Huh? How could you... that’s not true! Why would you say that?’.

"My mind genuinely was just spinning with what nonsense she must have read or clicked on to make her say that." 

Luckily, Mariah sensed her "nervous laughter" and quickly saved the conversation from derailing. 

“She jumped right in to make sure I was crystal clear – when she said ‘diva’, she was talking about the way that I dress, the posture, the clothing, the ‘fabulousness’ as she sees it," Meghan recalled. "She meant ‘diva’ as a compliment. But I heard it as a dig. I heard it as the word ‘diva’, as I think of it. But in that moment, as she explained to me, she meant it as chic, as aspirational."

Emma Dooney
Lifestyle News Writer

Hailing from the lovely city of Dublin, Emma mainly covers the Royal Family and the entertainment world, as well as the occasional health and wellness feature. Always up for a good conversation, she has a passion for interviewing everyone from A-list celebrities to the local GP - or just about anyone who will chat to her, really.

Emma holds an MA in International Journalism from City, University of London, and a BA in English Literature from Trinity College Dublin.