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Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'....
      12/01/2009 09:08

I have come into this thread rather late but I am very interested in this subject- can't claim to understand it in all its enormous complexities but have always tried to keep up with what happens there.

Like everything else in life, opinions are often tainted by personal experience. OH's oldest and closest friend is Jewish and he, and his family, feel very, very strongly about it.

But also, some years ago we used to put up foreign students for the university where we lived.. they were all European but once we were asked to put up a Palestinian guy. We were a bit taken aback but agreed to do it. He stayed with us for a year altogether, and we are still in touch. What a lovely, gentle guy he is. He will always have a special place in our hearts... the conditions in which he has to live are appalling. We do tend to forget that most people -everywhere- just want to get on with their daily lives and 'mind their own business'... and he is just the same. The restrictions the Israelis impose on the Palestinians even in times of 'relative' stability are just unfathomable to us. He and his family tried so hard to leave and emigrate to a peaceful country, but it seems that nobody wants them! And this is a peaceful guy, who speaks excellent English, is very presentable, has volunteered with the UN and has a Masters degree in International Business Law from a UK university!!!

Our Jewish friends were incensed when they knew we were accomodating a Palestinian student. They are the most liberal, free-thinking and laid-back people, but this is the one thing we can not see eye-to-eye on. After a 40 year really close friendship, where we have been through thick and thin together, this shocked me to the core. It's beyond sad....

I can't see how it will ever end- particularly when both sides still insist on an eye for an eye...

I so wish the Palestinians had not voted in Hamas- I think a lot of them do, too- but they promised the people so much, and after the corruption of Arafat, they wanted to believe them.....

We really are lucky to live in our countries, it's good to keep reminding ourselves that we mustn't take our freedoms for granted.

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* I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake 06/01/2009 18:15
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Thimble   06/01/2009 18:18
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chattycathy   06/01/2009 18:29
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... mezzanine   06/01/2009 18:40
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Thimble   06/01/2009 18:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   06/01/2009 19:15
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   06/01/2009 19:58
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   07/01/2009 09:59
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   06/01/2009 20:24
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   06/01/2009 20:34
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... suejane   06/01/2009 20:45
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   06/01/2009 21:08
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   06/01/2009 21:12
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   06/01/2009 21:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   06/01/2009 21:22
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   06/01/2009 22:22
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   06/01/2009 23:30
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   07/01/2009 08:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 08:58
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   07/01/2009 10:05
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   07/01/2009 09:20
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 09:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 09:57
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   07/01/2009 10:02
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 10:00
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 10:05
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... bluebella   07/01/2009 10:17
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 10:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 11:02
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   07/01/2009 11:08
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   07/01/2009 11:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 11:20
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   07/01/2009 11:25
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 11:31
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 11:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 11:54
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 12:08
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 12:14
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 12:32
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   07/01/2009 12:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   07/01/2009 13:24
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   07/01/2009 14:24
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   07/01/2009 21:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... issi   08/01/2009 01:03
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   08/01/2009 01:07
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... bluebella   07/01/2009 14:51
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 15:04
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   07/01/2009 15:51
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   07/01/2009 15:56
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   07/01/2009 16:00
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   07/01/2009 16:27
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 16:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 16:21
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   07/01/2009 16:30
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 16:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   07/01/2009 17:13
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   07/01/2009 18:37
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... nowcemsi   07/01/2009 18:54
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... nowcemsi   07/01/2009 20:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   08/01/2009 11:57
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   08/01/2009 12:12
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   08/01/2009 12:52
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   08/01/2009 13:21
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   08/01/2009 13:19
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   08/01/2009 13:26
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   08/01/2009 13:37
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   08/01/2009 13:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   08/01/2009 13:53
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   08/01/2009 13:58
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   08/01/2009 14:05
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   08/01/2009 14:01
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   08/01/2009 14:10
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   08/01/2009 15:03
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   08/01/2009 15:17
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   08/01/2009 16:01
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... RunGirl   08/01/2009 21:23
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   08/01/2009 23:22
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   08/01/2009 23:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   09/01/2009 09:27
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... ChrissiFi   09/01/2009 13:46
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   09/01/2009 13:50
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   09/01/2009 14:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   09/01/2009 15:22
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   09/01/2009 16:11
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   09/01/2009 17:19
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   09/01/2009 18:17
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   09/01/2009 19:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   09/01/2009 20:10
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   09/01/2009 21:04
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   09/01/2009 21:08
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   09/01/2009 21:10
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   09/01/2009 21:51
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   09/01/2009 22:04
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Sar   09/01/2009 22:14
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   10/01/2009 02:42
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chattycathy   10/01/2009 05:20
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   11/01/2009 23:12
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... expatK   12/01/2009 09:08
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   12/01/2009 09:28
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   12/01/2009 11:29
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   12/01/2009 12:25
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Chickadee   12/01/2009 13:03
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   12/01/2009 13:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chattycathy   12/01/2009 17:25
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   12/01/2009 17:44
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   12/01/2009 19:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Chickadee   12/01/2009 20:13
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   12/01/2009 21:19
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   12/01/2009 22:31
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   12/01/2009 23:41
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   13/01/2009 11:56
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Chickadee   13/01/2009 12:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   13/01/2009 12:51
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   13/01/2009 17:53
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   13/01/2009 17:59
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   13/01/2009 18:30
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   14/01/2009 16:58
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   14/01/2009 18:32
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... expatK   01/02/2009 16:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   01/02/2009 17:21
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Suee   01/02/2009 21:41
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   01/02/2009 23:18
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   02/02/2009 16:04
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Chickadee   12/01/2009 20:10
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... issi   12/01/2009 16:54
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   12/01/2009 16:56
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   12/01/2009 12:51
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   08/01/2009 12:51
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   07/01/2009 16:54
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 16:57
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   07/01/2009 16:36
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 16:26
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Spanishlady   07/01/2009 14:40
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 14:05
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 15:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 15:51
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 12:47
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   07/01/2009 12:31
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Snowy1066   07/01/2009 11:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   07/01/2009 11:08
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... bluebella   07/01/2009 10:47
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   07/01/2009 10:56
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 11:07
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 11:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 10:24
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   06/01/2009 22:19
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   06/01/2009 21:04
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Athena   06/01/2009 20:06
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   06/01/2009 19:32
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... nowcemsi   06/01/2009 19:34
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   06/01/2009 19:45
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Barney   06/01/2009 18:26
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Tigerfeet   06/01/2009 18:21

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