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Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'....
      11/01/2009 23:12

Gosh!!! I have just had an 'in-depth' skype conversation with my son(Political scientist/Middle eastern studies)who is teaching in a university in America. I have put so many questions to him and got lots of answers but as he says....'There is no quick easy straightforward way to explain all the politics and processes that have led us to where we are' The situation as is certainly goes a long way back but our British government of the time is not blameless for the muddle as we apparently'left them to it' after the second world war even though it was plain that the Palestinians were not accepting the Jewish settlement on what they considered (and had been)their land.
As to any reasoned settlement now? Apparently what happens is that the 'reasonable' elements from both sides will sit down and talk but when, any settlement seems near, the extremeist factions on either side will commit an atrocity to stir things up again and prevent a peace settlement. So basically it is down to the extremists on both sides keeping the warring going.
It is so complex though as to be beyond explanation here. So many 'outside interests' have been involved too...I wouldn't know where to start. It needs study to degree standard to understand it all.
Certainly It leaves me sitting firmly on the fence as to the rights and wrongs. Both sides have legitimate rights and share equal wrongs. They are not even 'monocultures'. There are factions within each 'state'. On a humanitarian scale though one has to feel that the Israelis are being very heavy handed....with the benefit of weaponry supplied mainly by America.
Well....I don't know that this has added anything to 'our' discussion but it has helped me to realise why we are a very long way from any setttlement yet.....if ever.
Oil and Trade routes came into it somewhere too....surprise surprise!!
Off to bed now. Head reeling. Tomorrow's another day!!
Night Night all!

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* I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake 06/01/2009 18:15
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Thimble   06/01/2009 18:18
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chattycathy   06/01/2009 18:29
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... mezzanine   06/01/2009 18:40
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Thimble   06/01/2009 18:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   06/01/2009 19:15
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   06/01/2009 19:58
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   07/01/2009 09:59
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   06/01/2009 20:24
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   06/01/2009 20:34
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... suejane   06/01/2009 20:45
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   06/01/2009 21:08
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   06/01/2009 21:12
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   06/01/2009 21:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   06/01/2009 21:22
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   06/01/2009 22:22
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   06/01/2009 23:30
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   07/01/2009 08:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 08:58
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   07/01/2009 10:05
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   07/01/2009 09:20
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 09:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 09:57
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. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 10:00
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 10:05
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... bluebella   07/01/2009 10:17
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 10:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 11:02
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   07/01/2009 11:08
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   07/01/2009 11:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 11:20
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   07/01/2009 11:25
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. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 11:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 11:54
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 12:08
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. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   07/01/2009 12:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   07/01/2009 13:24
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   07/01/2009 14:24
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   07/01/2009 21:43
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... issi   08/01/2009 01:03
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   08/01/2009 01:07
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... bluebella   07/01/2009 14:51
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 15:04
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   07/01/2009 15:51
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. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   07/01/2009 16:00
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   07/01/2009 16:27
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 16:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   07/01/2009 16:21
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   07/01/2009 16:30
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   07/01/2009 16:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   07/01/2009 17:13
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   07/01/2009 18:37
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... nowcemsi   07/01/2009 18:54
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... nowcemsi   07/01/2009 20:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... JustJules   08/01/2009 11:57
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   08/01/2009 12:12
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   08/01/2009 12:52
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   08/01/2009 13:21
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   08/01/2009 13:19
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. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   08/01/2009 13:53
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... PLASMO   08/01/2009 13:58
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   08/01/2009 14:05
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   08/01/2009 14:01
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... dizeeblonde   08/01/2009 14:10
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   08/01/2009 15:03
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   08/01/2009 15:17
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   08/01/2009 16:01
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... RunGirl   08/01/2009 21:23
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   08/01/2009 23:22
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   08/01/2009 23:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   09/01/2009 09:27
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... ChrissiFi   09/01/2009 13:46
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   09/01/2009 13:50
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   09/01/2009 14:16
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   09/01/2009 15:22
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   09/01/2009 16:11
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... cupcake   09/01/2009 17:19
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   09/01/2009 18:17
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   09/01/2009 19:38
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   09/01/2009 20:10
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chilla   09/01/2009 21:04
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. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Sar   09/01/2009 22:14
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... OzzieKez   10/01/2009 02:42
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... chattycathy   10/01/2009 05:20
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mayday   11/01/2009 23:12
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. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... BEL   13/01/2009 11:56
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Chickadee   13/01/2009 12:49
. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   13/01/2009 12:51
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. * * Re: I don't fully understand the Israel/Palestine 'problem'.... Mollymandy   12/01/2009 12:51
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