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PLASMO
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FOOTBALLER'S DECLINE
      #298318 - 06/01/2009 11:14

Good Morning Everyone,

Wonder if anyone watched the really sad documentary last night about Paul Gasgoine?

When I say sad, I really mean, I felt so much for his own child and his two stepchildren, and of course his ex-wife, as they seem to be so trapped in whatever they try to do to make his condition more bearable.

To see someone who had such talent, and now is just a man who is an alchoholic, bipolar, and has many other medical problems,and seems determined to continue on the road to destruction, I wonder how he got to this state in the first place.

Initially, I felt sorry for him, but by the end of the programme, my sympathies were all with his ex-wife and children. Such a sad story.

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Re: FOOTBALLER'S DECLINE [Re: PLASMO]
      #298333 - 06/01/2009 11:27

I saw most of it Plasmo. Very sad situation. The only one who would happily cut of ties was his natural son. The stepson was the the one who struggled to keep things going but always lost out. The demon drink in action again, although I realise that there were other issues too.
Gazza needs to be Gazza and not Paul Gascoine. He doesn't seem to be able to function as anybody else.
Rainbow.x

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Re: FOOTBALLER'S DECLINE [Re: Rainbow08]
      #298413 - 06/01/2009 12:37

I only caught the last half but I felt for his ex-wife more than anything. She seemed to be caught between a rock and a hard place. For her children's sake she kept the "revolving" door so that Gazza can get back to what he is best at - abusing people - and when the counsellor told her that it was all right to let go and not have him back in her life she cried with relief, only to make an effort to see him again, for her children's sake. If Gazza goes the way of George Best she will feel guilty yet whilst he is still about she cannot ever be free of him. I believe Gazza is mentally ill and probably needs to be sectioned.

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Re: FOOTBALLER'S DECLINE [Re: issi]
      #298485 - 06/01/2009 13:30

Afternoon ladies,
From my perspective I did'nt feel sorry for his ex wife at all, I think it was very one sided and for a child to say he wished his father would go away is incredibly sad.
He is ill and I do believe that he can't help himself. You can't tell someone who is mentally ill to pull themselves together. I do wonder if he is beyond help.
I read his book and he has been ill for a very long time. I suppose abit like George Best who was also a very talented footballer but could'nt leave the drink alone.
Something triggers the self destruct button
Just a different opinion ladies.

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Re: FOOTBALLER'S DECLINE [Re: Chipmunk]
      #298547 - 06/01/2009 14:26

I have an addiction, or should say had and fight it every day but I would be horrified if I behaved the way he does

yes he may well be bi-polar or spoiled .. I have a family member who is bi-polar but maybe each person is different

I think the ex wife is trying to achieve peace of mind in case gazza should end his life; to ensure she did everything she could for him

his youngest child seems a very wise boy to me

sorry I just dont like these footballers who behave appallingly and hide behind mental illness, the guy is an alcoholic and gets depressed beause he cant have any!!

sorry my opinion


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Re: FOOTBALLER'S DECLINE [Re: nowcemsi]
      #298554 - 06/01/2009 14:33

I saw some of it, but actually turned it off in disgust. I was disturbed that a mother could cash in on something like this, and as for having her 12 year old child filmed, beggars belief. Surely the child has had enough to contend with already , how on earth can this have helped him, and what damage may it do physcologically if he is to watch it when he is a few years older? Sorry but I just find it a very unpleasant thing for a mother to do.

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Re: FOOTBALLER'S DECLINE [Re: nowcemsi]
      #298630 - 06/01/2009 15:31

I watched the whole programme, and I found it sad too Plasmo. I was impressed by each of the children's honesty and sensitivity. I didn't see it as a cashing-in exercise, but a portrayal of a family doing the best they can in an extremely difficult situation. I hope Gazza finds the strength to get through this but he seems so close to the end.

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Re: FOOTBALLER'S DECLINE [Re: redpoppy]
      #298681 - 06/01/2009 16:07

RedPoppy and Everyone,

I must admit after I saw the programme, I was discussing it with my OH, and one thing that I said to him was "I wonder what the documentary makers hoped to achieve by making this film".

Was it to make every family aware in the land, that you dont have to be a famous footballer to suffer with these addictions? there must be many people like us who have had experiences, either themselves, or with family members.

The family must have received a fee for the programme, but ultimately, my own opinion was, that they allowed the documentary to be made, to permit every viewer to see how they tried to help their father/ex husband, and how indeed, they failed.

Plasmo x

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