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cherryblossom
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menopausal insomniac!
      #179818 - 27/08/2008 22:25

Hello Ladies,

Just contemplating going to bed as Im tired, but dread a night of the usual 2 visits to the little girls room, tossing and turning, watching the clock hour by hour, then falling into a deep sleep when its time to get up. Im told this all goes with the menopause (which I have the pleasure of being newly initiated), anybody got any ideas apart from a sledge hammer to the head!!! Help cant face another night of watching hubbie snore aswell as hearing it!

A wilting Cherryblossom

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #179851 - 27/08/2008 22:38

Have to give in and head off to bed, will hopefully catch some shut eye, and hope to hear from some wide awake ladies tomorrow, night,night

Cherryblossom

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #179875 - 27/08/2008 22:53

Hi cherryB, yes it's great this menopause you feel half dead most of the time can't think,or sleep,I wake up every morning at 4am WHY I don't know,I lay awake hour after hour, hubbie's snoring getting louder by the minute.I can understand why wives murder there other halves, it would be around this time of life I guess.Well I have tryed every thing and it's still no better after 7 yrs.Here I am still awake and I have been on the go since 6am,but not a bit ready for sleep.If you find the cure please send it to me .Glynis x x

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: Glynis]
      #179918 - 27/08/2008 23:19

I have been an insomniac and tried everything from hypnotherapy to sleeping pills. It is absolutely awful to be sleep deprived and you very soon end up feeling depressed, grumpy and unable to cope if you can't get enough sleep. You probably know this already! Sleeping pills are good to break the cycle - the doctor would probably give a week or two's supply - don't worry you won't get addicted to the newer sleeping pills - or if you prefer the non drug approach relaxation tapes are worth a try (Paul McKenna does a good one for insomniacs) - or you could try Nytol tablets which my friend who works shifts swears by (available over the counter). Other advice includes going to bed and if you are not asleep within half an hour, get up and do something quiet and boring, then when you feel sleepy go back to bed. Repeat this throughout the night if necessary. The idea is not to lie there in bed 'trying' to sleep - this guarantees to keep you awake! I could write a book about my sleep problems but thankfully am ok at the moment. Hope you get some sleep .

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: Alberinho]
      #179972 - 27/08/2008 23:59

Hello CherryB, I'm post menopausal but still an insomniac, I've tried everything, my doctors made me come off sleeping tablets because they are addictive, I'm still not sure about that, I only took them perhaps twice a month when I was so desperate for a nights sleep, but hey ho no choice. I don't find the herbal sleeping preparations work for me in fact they make me very twitchy so these nights I resort to Bach's Rescue remedy, purely an essence of flowers, the dosage on the bottle says 4 drops for stress relief, I read in a magazine to take 6 for insomnia, it works sometimes. Bach's have brought out a night Rescue Remedy but personally I don't like the taste. Occasionally I take a couple of Natra Calms, again Natra Sleep make me feel tired but manic, but the Natra Calms literally calm me down. At best I only string five hours of sleep together and drift in and out of a snooze for the rest.

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: Sunbeam]
      #180072 - 28/08/2008 08:37

Good morning Ladies,

Well got a few hours sleep last night, thanks for your posts. Im a nurse dont work shifts anymore just days, but have tried the nytol, natur calms etc years ago when I did night shift, made me feel rather zombie like. I think perhaps the getting up and doing something till feeling tired again sounds worth a try, being a "typical nurse", dont practice what I preach, not good at taken pills. Have thought about trying the Menopace it contains black cohosh, which helps with the flushes etc, spoke to our pharmacist at work, said it may be worth a try, but if you have breast problems, its not good to take long term, due to some hormonal content. Its just one of those things I guess I have to get on with and hope it improves! Well time to get on with the housey things!!!

Thanks again ladies, have a good day

Cherryblossom

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #180134 - 28/08/2008 09:38

I'm not an insomniac or going thru the menopause but I do have a couple of nights a month just before my period when I can't sleep too well. I usually just go with the flow because I know it will pass when the hormones do their thing but I have taken melatonin which I find really good, it just help you drift off & in the morning you feel really refreshed.
There are a lot of herbal remedies you could try, none will ever be as strong or as effective as medication but taking the edge off the anxiety that comes with not being able to sleep with a natural remedy may help. Hope you find some peace soon.


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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #180180 - 28/08/2008 10:12

I luckily don't have any problem sleeping, could sleep at any time but my daughter has always had a problem sleeping. What really helped her was a herb pillow which had a lot of lavender and rosemary in it. She now puts lavender bags under the pillow - sounds old fashioned I know but it has really worked for her. Anythings worth a try and at least its a cheap. I've even grown loads of lavender so I can supply her with the lavender bags!
The problem of going to the little girls room is one which might be helped by not having a drink of anything after 9pm - friend of mine swears this is the cure!

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #180192 - 28/08/2008 10:22

You can get a sleeping aid at boots over the counter, something like sleepezee I think ,(another symptom - the memory goes!)(I'll check the name later) anyway it knocks me out but gradually, so you feel in control but sleepy, i think it is more a drug than herbal, but when I've had a few bad nights I take it and it does work whereas the herbal things don't.
Hope it works for you too. x


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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: trendymurm]
      #180195 - 28/08/2008 10:26

Hi Cherryblossom, I'm post menopausal now but sometimes do have problems sleeping. I can go to bed feeling really exhausted but still can't get off to sleep for seemingly ages. I'm always hot in bed (warmth wise, I mean - not boasting!lol)too. Often wake middle of night and can't get back to sleep with the result that when the alarm goes off I really struggle to get out of bed.
I don't drink coffee after about 7 pm. I have just discovered a Twinings tea called African Honeybush with a hint of lavender. It tastes quite nice and makes me feel relaxed so I do sleep better. It's worth a try anyway.

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: AllyL]
      #180249 - 28/08/2008 12:31

I was like this until i started on HRT 4 months ago .I used to wake in a sweat at 2 am 4 am and 6 am then feel really awful at getting up time of 7.3o.
I now sleep right through and my moods are better also.
Having weighed up the pros and cons, it was the right choice for me.
J.


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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: Arty]
      #180259 - 28/08/2008 13:01

Thanks once again girls for all your good advice, think I might try the lavender as for one I love the smell, its good to hear lots of different things have worked for you all, I know something will work eventually, just have to be patient..........
At the moment need to go and hold my breath as have had the hiccups for over 45mins at least, better not hold it too long though...........

Cherryblosoom

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #180377 - 28/08/2008 16:02

Hi Cherryblossom it maybe worth you trying Boots sleep cones, they worked for my sister, they are little disposable plastic studs you stick on the acupuncture point for sleep, they are next to all the Boots 'Sleep' sprays balms etc.

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: Sunbeam]
      #180388 - 28/08/2008 16:17

Hi Cherryblossom, I'm exactly the same but probably the worst part for me is an OH who says so helpfully "just close your eyes & go to sleep"!!! As if. Very tempted with the studs but most nights I would be more likely to pray they hurt when placed on the body and cover OH in them. It probably still wouldn't wake him.

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: sue11]
      #180549 - 28/08/2008 18:50

Studs sound a good idea, and I like your idea sue to stick on the OH, my OH snores within seconds of head landing on pillow, heres to a nights sleep sometime soon!!

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #180588 - 28/08/2008 19:17

To save me writing it again - see my post on Family Firsts about snoring.

It works - honest

..wispa


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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #183763 - 01/09/2008 15:40

Hi Cherryblossom have just read your post about lack of sleep which i have suffered from time to time but since i tried taking Valerina herbal tablets i have managed to sleep pretty well i usually take 2 and finds it works well hope it helps Lilian

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: violet]
      #184248 - 02/09/2008 08:31

Thank you for that, surely with all your good advice ladies, something should give me some "Ole shut eye" !

Cherryblossom

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: cherryblossom]
      #188018 - 06/09/2008 09:51

I've had the same problem, found Nytol one a night really work for me, they are not addictive and I find that I can leave them off a bit after a while, and then take them again when I need to.

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Re: menopausal insomniac! [Re: AUTUMN]
      #188020 - 06/09/2008 09:58

Hi there, used to take half a nytol when I did night shift years ago, (Im an RN), it used to knock me out, but you know what maybe should try it again once in a while, at least I would get some sleep, thanks for that. Have a nice weekend.

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