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Anneh1957
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Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams?
      #114259 - 13/05/2008 12:43

There was a documentary on Channel Four last might about anti-ageing face creams, did anyone see it? They tested a selection of well known creams, some very expensive like Dior 'Capture' range, right down to Simple facial moisturiser which costs less then a fiver. Also tested were ranges from Olay, L'Oreal, the famous Boots Protect and Perfect, Nivea and a couple of others I've forgotten. Granted that these were tested on a very small sample of women (they didn't know what make they were using) and it was only over a couple of weeks, but not only did the scientists not find any improvement at the end of the trial, some women had worse lines and wrinkles than before! The cosmetic companies must be pretty upset by this programme - of course the companies concerned said it wasn't a proper trial, the products needed to be used for longer etc....but it kind of put me off spending money on anti-ageing creams, especially at the top end of the market - not that I do anyway. I use Dermalogica at the moment, which isn't too pricey, but I'm now wondering whether I should just use something even cheaper! One of the experts concluded that the only anti-ageing cream necessary is a good sunscreen, as it's the sun that does most of the damage.

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PatsyW
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: Anneh1957]
      #114264 - 13/05/2008 12:54

I didn't see it, but I wish I had. I'm just about to renew my face cream - I may think twice before parting with nearly £20 and try a cheaper one this time.

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ChrissiFi
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: PatsyW]
      #114287 - 13/05/2008 13:45

I missed the program. Didn't the BBC do something similar a while ago that concluded the Boots Protect and Perfect actually worked? I remember seeing something about samples being sold on ebay for a fortune after that.

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feathers
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: PatsyW]
      #114288 - 13/05/2008 13:47

It didn't surprise me at all and the medics (dermatologist and plastic surgeon) repeated what I have always heard them say - protect your skin from the sun, get a face cream with SPF, use the cheapest that suits your skin without irritating. And to think I used to feel intimidated (ok, a long time ago) by saleswomen on beauty counters.

I loved the former beauty editor who spilled the beans.

It was a very small trial and I won't be giving up the Boots Protect and Protect serum which I bought after the BBC said it did work. I like the bounce it gives my skin and now also use the night cream. I use a tinted moisturiser with SPF10 for daytime.


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MrsDing
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: feathers]
      #114377 - 13/05/2008 16:44

I watched that. Confirmed what I had always suspected, I'm afraid.

My name is Mrs Ding and I'm a Superdrugaholic!!!


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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: feathers]
      #114378 - 13/05/2008 16:44

Oooops!! Double post

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need2know
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: feathers]
      #114379 - 13/05/2008 16:45

It was a bit of a shocker! I have tried lots of different creams including some at the high end of the market (La Prairie, SK11, Guerlain) and have to say that I don't think that any of them have made any diference at all. The only one I have ever rated was Estee Lauder's Resilience, but after last night's programme I think it probably had some kind of cosmetic effect rather than a long term one. Seems like it's all been a big con!

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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: need2know]
      #114389 - 13/05/2008 17:09

Do you mean that pentapeptides wasn't the word on everyone's lips? ( Ad for olay or something) Anyway who changed Ulay for Olay and Marathon for Snickers and who's idea was it to change the filling in Milky Way bars ( ok a few years ago now) and Jif to Cif and why can you not get Cif with bleach anymore (the green one)

I like nice smelling moisturisers but you can't even get those now because everything is fragrance free. Why can't they just leave things alone!

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MariaE
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: need2know]
      #114394 - 13/05/2008 17:18

This is what we've often been told, but some people persist in thinking that the more you pay, the better the result. Sorry, it just doesn't work like that with human skin. A good sunscreen, a light moisturiser, a proper cleansing at night and a healthy diet are all you need.

I've never felt the need to spend huge amounts of cash on whipped-up oils with long names - "Super Nu-Retriv Plumping and Anti-wrinkling pro-Xlane enriched Day Creme" £50 please,when you can get reliable and cheaper products from Nivea or Superdrug. And don't take any notice of beauty editors, they have to toe the line as the advertisesr pay for the magazines (£60,000 for a full page ad)and hence their salaries and expenses are at risk if they promote the less expensive lines.


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Spanishlady
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: MariaE]
      #114405 - 13/05/2008 17:39

I used a very high sun cream and I love Astral have been using it for years and years and years

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Vicky123
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: Spanishlady]
      #114422 - 13/05/2008 18:05

I dont know if its still sold but my ex-MIL used Ponds cold cream (as it was called at the time) and her skin was absolutely wonderful even in her 70s. Also used it on her hands and she had no age spots or dry skin. I use Perfect & Protect too but I dont really think it has made much difference. Still have the wrinkles!

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gyp
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: Spanishlady]
      #114424 - 13/05/2008 18:07

I don't think beauty creams hold back the years, more the pity, they just act on our insecurity. Just good clean skin and don't sunbathe without sunscreens is the best advise.

And always remember that the price of any magazine is affected by how many ads they can put into it to cover the cost. I wonder what this magazine would cost if there were no beauty adverts in it.


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gigi
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: ShelBee]
      #114438 - 13/05/2008 18:23

I know what you mean. I think they chnged Jif to Cif because in some countries it is hard to pronounce and in Italy there is no J in th alphabet, don't know why the others were changed.

Face creams- I recently began to use E45 cream on my neck, it works better than anything else I've used and I find that sudocreme works wonders on my hands and keeps my cuticles tidy with no effort on my part with just one application at night.

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Mayday
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: gigi]
      #114595 - 13/05/2008 21:07

I have been using Boots Refine and Rewind for a year and do really think it is helping(it is a stronger version of Protect and Perfect and was recommended by a Boots assistant.) But I also take an Evening Primrose capsule daily and have for years and think that is partly what brings the "I can't believe you are seventy" remarks. Or am I being naive?

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RachelS
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: ShelBee]
      #114695 - 13/05/2008 22:45

Hi ShelBee
You can get Cif with bleach still I think it is blue now.


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Foxie
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: RachelS]
      #114737 - 14/05/2008 05:32

Hi Everyone
I didn't see the programme, the general jist I am getting is that no one cream is better than any other, no matter what you spend.

Is this right or were there are recommended creams? Can someone please tell me?
Thanks
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: Foxie]
      #114755 - 14/05/2008 08:32

Hi the Anne.
If there was a cure and something that truly worked for face lines and that stopped ones skin from aging for that matter then there wouldn't be all these creams and lotions on the market.

Oh silly me there is plastic surgery

I can not help thinking these creams and the like are all a con and just one big money making business

I to like Spanishlady use suncream when I am out in the sun. I also use Astral cream and have since I was in my teens, I followed on from what my mum used then and still does.
I don't think she or I look bad for 68 and 43


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tanya67
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: dbverycherry]
      #114763 - 14/05/2008 08:54

I missed the programme too
I dont have broadband and have trouble logging on and watching programmes online
Could someone possibly let me know exactly which creams were tested and if any were reccomended?
I would really appreciate it
Tanya


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feathers
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: tanya67]
      #114772 - 14/05/2008 09:14

None were recommended. See if I can remember: Protect and Perfect, Simple moisturiser on its own, Nivea Q10, an expensive Dior (60/80 or soemthing like that), L'Oreal (the one Penelope Cruz advertises)....
The docs said protect your skin from the sun, use cream with a high SPF, use the cheapest that suits your skin without irritating. They found an improvement in only one woman's skin but she was soap and water and nothing else before the trial. Most guinea pigs had more wrinkles after the month.


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tanya67
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Re: Anyone see Channel 4 last night re face creams? [Re: feathers]
      #114790 - 14/05/2008 09:43

Thanks!
Tanya


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