maddy1
(member)
18/09/2008 14:40
Husband and his female work colleague

I suspect that my husband is having a relationship with a girl at work, he is 48 and she is 31, they have a lot in common, both into motorbikes, and I know that they have been meeting after work for meals, drinks etc. He denies anything is going on but I just have this feeling, any advice on what I should do?

gatheringroses
(member)
18/09/2008 14:53
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

It may be perfectly innocent, just someone to talk to with shared interests. Has he been upfront about meeting her outside work, i.e. telling you about it beforehand or have you found out after?. Trying to work out if he's deliberately hiding stuff. You having told him you don't feel comfortable with this should be evident to him that he needs to stop seeing her outside work. It may not be anything now, but it has the potential to develop if they're spending a lot of time together, i.e., work and free time. I would say he needs to stop seeing her.

faithfulone
(member)
18/09/2008 14:54
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Find out somehow - you need to know
and good luck
xxxx


cookiedoughforever
(member)
18/09/2008 14:57
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Hi maddy1

Perhaps you could invite yourself along once in a while? If they are just friends then they should welcome you.

It goes back to the same old thing - can a man and woman just be friends? I have to say a wholehearted YES.

On the other hand, he is married to YOU and if you feel uncomfortable then HE should take steps to change to take account of your feelings. You are the "First Lady" in his life afterall.

Cookie
xx


maddy1
(member)
18/09/2008 15:01
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

I would love to meet up with her but the problem is he works in London during the week only coming home at weekends.

Jenniferpl
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18/09/2008 15:40
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Hi maddy

Do you work? How far away from london are you? If you have kids could someone look after them for the evening? Presumably if your husband stays in london all week he has a crash pad or a hotel - could you not pay a surpise visit mid week and invite your self along for a drink? might settle your mind


maddy1
(member)
18/09/2008 15:50
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

We live in Cumbria so not that easy to nip down to London.

Snowy1066
(member)
18/09/2008 16:08
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Dear Maddy, I think if it obviously makes you feel uncomfortable, then you should sit him down again, and tell him how it is affecting you. It could be innocent, but I would be like you and very worried that something may develop from this friendship. Better to sort things out now than later, if he is being honest he should honour your feelings, for the sake of your marriage. Good Luck me Darling.

ChrissiFi
(member)
18/09/2008 16:45
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Maddy,

One thing - I'm assuming he's told you they've met outside of work so why would he have told you that he was meeting up with her if there was anything going on and, to be honest, there was no chance of you finding out without him saying? If he's telling you about their meetings it sounds unlikely to me that there is anything to worry about. How is he when he's home with you?

Whatever you do you need to be careful not to push him into considering something he's not thought about before! How would your OH react if you just turned up or insisted he stopped seeing her? I know if I did that it would make matters worse - OH hates being questioned or told what to do so I could easily push him into making a really stupid decision (I've been in a similar situation to you recently - see post "What would you do" down the bottom of the page, think last post was around 12/09).

PM me if you'd like a chat sometime. I don't usually log on evenings but will try to tonight. I hope so much that you've got nothing to worry about...

Chrissi


chilla
(member)
18/09/2008 18:39
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Hi Maddy

Well first off, you'll find lots of supportive people on this site, so I hope you find some advice that fits.

It's been pointed out that he has told you that he sees this woman, so he's been upfront. I presume he mentioned it out of the blue so to speak rather than you noticing something odd in his routine and questioning him.

On the other hand, I'm a real believer in women's intuition. My O/H worked 180 miles away a few years ago and after a few years of that, something niggled away, something not quite right, my woman's intuition was telling me that something was wrong and as it turned out it was right. I don't know how your O/H reacts, but I knew mine would not admit to anything if I didn't actually know hard facts. It would just be too easy for him to say he was being good and it was in my imagination.

This is already out there in the 'Bunny Boiler' post, so I don't mind repeating it. I had to know for sure; I was only torturing myself. As you say when they work away a long distance it is very difficult. I'm not suggesting that what I did is for you, in these situations, you can only do what feels right for you. I eventually found out from someone else that he was seeing someone, but obviously couldn't drop the other person in it. I found out all sorts through various means that enabled me to confront him. It got messy and he was still coming home, but there was so much I didn't know about my future, where I stood with him, etc etc. So, I guessed that he would want to talk to her at the weekend. Did the usual sneaked a peek at his mobile and could see nothing amiss, but because the intuition was so strong, I bought myself 3 dictaphones (no bigger than a small mobile) left one in the front bedroom, one in the dining room at the front of the house and one in the living room. I'd then say I was going out for whatever reason, say shopping/coffee with a friend for an hour, knowing that if he there was someone to ring, he would use that time when he knew I wasn't around. It worked. Once I left the house he'd ring her (from a mobile I didn't know he had at the time and say that I'd gone out for x amount of time). I only heard his side of the conversation, but that was sufficient. If I had thought of thedictaphones at the start of my worries, I would have used them then as it would have been easier and cheaper!

I know some people will think that's wrong but I never regretted it. It gave me the answers I needed at the time and helped prevent me from losing my business and home.

Ultimately it all panned out and we got back together and four years later I don't really think about it unless the subject crops up amongst other people.

I sincerely hope that it is all innocent as it may be. And as I said, I was just saying what I did - it's up to you what you do with any of the advice you get on here from anyone. If you feel lonely or need suggestions, plenty of people have been in this type of situation, so log on. If you want to send a message, I'm happy to reply as I know how confusing the thoughts can be.

All the best and take care of yourself.

And you're not a bad person for wondering if.


kate1
(member)
18/09/2008 19:21
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

I like what Chilla did...you would have to know!

First off though, I think you should suggest going down to London with him, for a few days.Do it at very short notice.Eg I'll go with you when you go back to London the day after tomorrow, darling.Have got some time off work and fancy a break.'
Then see how he reacts.If he says that will be good, you're home and dry and have nothing to worry about, and get a nice break.
If he seems uneasy and tries to put you off, your suspicions are probably right.


maddy1
(member)
18/09/2008 19:46
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Problem is he only admitted that he was seeing her outside work when I found texts on his mobile, one to meet at his hotel at 11pm - said it was because she was upset about work issues but at 11pm I don't think so. I really don't know what to do I love him but I suspect that he does not want to be with me. If there is anyone who has gone through a similar experience and has some advice I would appreciate it! I don't have any family close by and am unable to discuss this with anyone as all of our friends think he is wonderful!

kate1
(member)
18/09/2008 19:53
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

I hope I'm wrong, but coming to his hotel room at 11.pm to discuss work???
I really don't think so.

I don't think any man would want a woman to come to his room at that time anyway, as it compromises him at least!
I don't believe it!
Now you have to decide whether you want to confront and know the truth or pretend it's not happening.

maddy1...I wish you well.x


kate1
(member)
18/09/2008 19:57
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Also, what do you think about my suggestion of going down with him to London at short notice? And see his reaction.

If you found texts on his mobile, I would get hold of the mobile and send a text to her asking how she is or something equally innocuous, and see what rely you get back!!


ChrissiFi
(member)
18/09/2008 20:01
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Oh dear Maddy. That's why I turned to the forum for advice recently - all my friends are also OH's friends and my family think he's wonderful. In my case I now know that it's innocent - have seen her, spoken to her (I knew her anyway) and whilst I'm not happy about the friendship I realise I can't decide who his friends are or when he sees them (she's a night-time person and doesn't even think that phoning at gone 11pm might not be appreciated). I do know that friends in London think nothing of going out at 10 or 11pm, the sort of time when I'd be thinking about coming home! Sorry, OH's just phoned... I'll be back in a minute.

cupsoverfloweth
(member)
18/09/2008 20:12
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

I can feel my blood boiling! However you find out - and you will, now these amazing women have empowered you - you will need to be strong - AND REALLY ANGRY! How DARE he insult your intelligence in this way? Actually, I will take the angry thing back - stay IN CONTROL, and you will be fine. It could be that he wants you to find out - and your marriage could be saved, even if it means a lot of counselling and mediation. Both of you need to want that though. And you will need guarantee's, assurances, and apologies, on a regular basis.
Worst case scenario is that he wants to leave - be prepared for that, just in case.
Remember, we are all here to support you (never to judge you), whatever happens.


xxxSummerxxx
(member)
18/09/2008 20:28
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Honey,

You know the answer to this,i think you need to decide what to do next.....


ChrissiFi
(member)
18/09/2008 20:34
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Ok, I'm back (men! He's out all evening and phones for a chat just when I'm talking to all of you...) Whatever you do, be in control, keep as calm as you possibly can and don't do anything you'll regret. We're all here if you need us.

BeauSoleil
(member)
18/09/2008 20:38
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

I'm afraid I'm with Kate1 on this one and would probably do something like she suggests with the sending of a text asking how she is and see what kind of reply you get. My OH works away too and I know how easily the paranoia sets in. However, I don't think I would accept him meeting someone at 11pm in a hotel room. You could try ringing the hotel and asking if she is there (I think you said you knew her name). What you do have to be careful of though is giving him a headstart if he is up to no good. I'd rather bide my time and be sure rather than have the marriage fall apart because of unfounded allegations. Does all that make sense??

cupsoverfloweth
(member)
18/09/2008 21:12
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Actually, I'm a bit of a reactionary, therefore, biding ones' time is the long game, and it is better to play a long game and win the truth, than a short one and drive him underground.

Iam going to opt out of this thread for now, as it is now up to maddy1 to make up her mind in peace. Good luck, Maddy1


xxxSummerxxx
(member)
18/09/2008 21:22
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Our Friend posted this as she felt alone and therefore wanted our opinion,i'm sure she is mature enough to take any advice on the chin or to ignore it.

THe road you are going down is not as easy road,no road in life is generally Black or White,there are two sides to every story,every Partnership....


Jewels
(member)
18/09/2008 21:24
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Oh Maddy I so feel for you. I have a suspicious nature and am afraid I always think the worst. I dont trust men (not even my poor husband) and worry over and over when there is nothing to worry about. I feel for you but feel I cannot advise as I would make you feel worse. I just hope and pray your worries are unfounded and that your OH loves you to death and re-assures you, as I know that is what you hope for. I am rooting for you.

kate1
(member)
18/09/2008 21:56
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

I agree with Summer absolutely.
Most people can make up their own minds when it comes to decisions, but need to put into words what they are feeling in order,to 'Hear' themselves discuss it.
You asked for our thoughts and we gave them.
We all realise it's entirely a matter for you to decide what to do.
We'll be here for you whatever you do...we are not trying to make you do what we think, just being honest in telling you how we see it.


cupsoverfloweth
(member)
18/09/2008 22:25
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Ok, I haven't left the blooming forum!
Yes, you are right, Summer. However, i have nothing more to add to this post, and I can see that there are a lot of opinions/ advices/experiences.
I am also a mature, educated and experienced woman of 48 years, and am continually learning about life.I have also experienced a husband's infidelty. For me, it didn't work out. That was a long time ago, but I know the signs.

I am glad we are all helping our friend about her lonely feelings, and as you rightly pointed out, she has asked for our opinions. None of us can 'mind read', though. We can only be subjective - and we have been. All of us, especially me. I am a reactionary person, and that is not a great quality, I know. It really doesn't help everyone.
HOWEVER - it often provokes an action OR a REACTION. I don't need to see it, or experience it. The important thing is that the recipient reacts publicly or privately. It is their choice.

So, maddy1,just keep us all posted. Take time to think things through and talk things out. Of course things are never black and white, but you aren't stupid, so why should you accept excuses or stories?


xxxSummerxxx
(member)
19/09/2008 04:51
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Good grief LOL

chilla
(member)
19/09/2008 09:08
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

You found the texts he didn't tell you and meeting at 11pm. Perfectly reasonable obviously. I remember mine saying that going away on holiday and sharing a room was fine, they weren't going to do anything. . Do I sound that stupid?

Whatever route you choose, whatever methods you choose, you have to find out what is what or you will drive yourself demented. As I said before, i preferred to find out for sure before confronting him so there was no wriggle room.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do. If it is the worst case, which we are all crossed fingers it isn't, then don't rush into things, act decisively but not rashly.


issi
(member)
19/09/2008 10:48
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

I would be thinking he is at it. Do you have children? This may make a difference to the way he would react if he was confronted with your suspicions. Either you wait and hope it fizzles out or you tell him what you are thinking and force him to lie or make a decision he is not ready for. It will be torture for you if you wait and the chances of an affair fizzling out is much harder because they have all the time and opportunity. You are already thinking it through by airing your problem on the forum. I really really hope he is not doing anything but I am not a great believer in platonic friendships so it would be great to nip it in the bud. You are not in control of his movements when he works so far away from you (by which I mean he is not seeing you every night or going out with you) and I think this is a major problem. I am sending you lots of hugs and good wishes and stay strong. x

madmarce
(member)
19/09/2008 12:12
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Maybe your husband is lonely. From his perspective, he works all the hours god sends, cut off from you and his home/family life, no-one to share things with, probably doesn't want to ruin the weekends by talking about work, gets a bit down, feels like he's being farmed for money (sorry, but a lot of men do feel like that) and this woman is probably just his little treat to himself to cheer himself up, a kind of reward for being a bored, disappointed, middle-aged, not got where he wanted to in life, worried about becoming unattractive, man.
Alternatively, she might be a gold-digging man-stealer who knows a good thing when she sees it; or maybe she's a nice, kind, genuine person who feels sorry for him.

I think you seriously need to consider this "working away from home all week" scenario. Maybe he needs a complete change of career/life? He seems to have been trying to send signals to you that he is looking for something better and you need to take the opportunity to look with him. Do you ever discuss your plans for the future as a couple? Don't be surprised if he suggests moving abroad, downsizing, starting a smallholding in the Shetlands - he's probably been hankering after an escape for a long time, and this other woman is just a practice run. (I'm assuming you don't want him to stray: otherwise this is the ideal opportunity to offload him, but I guess that's not the case.)


kate1
(member)
19/09/2008 12:51
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Ok...I don't go back on anything I've already said.

But think madmarce is wonderful!
Do you think you could start by asking him if he's happy and then if he's not asking what you two could do as a couple to make your life together better.
It could be that he is having an affair, but that she is not his raison d'etre, and you do stand a chance of her being the catalist that makes you better!
What do you think? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


chilla
(member)
19/09/2008 13:39
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

There's a strong possibility that madmarce is right in so far as the reasoning goes, feels like he works hard, misses out blah, blah. But that's hardly an excuse.

The guy presumably has a tongue in his head and the ability to communicate? He could say he hates working away, misses friends and family, feels like he's treat like a cash cow. It's really not that complicated to do the right thing.


kate1
(member)
19/09/2008 13:45
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Chilla,
He's a man!
Women communicate...they're not like us! They should but they don't!!


ChrissiFi
(member)
19/09/2008 14:02
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Chilla, most men would feel they were letting the family down if they admitted they didn't want to carry on in their job and would prefer to do something that paid a lot less.

Jane_2009
(member)
19/09/2008 14:06
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Maddy, if my husband was meeting a woman at 11pm at night in a hotel, I'd definitely be hearing alarm bells!!

All you can really do is talk to him and ask him what is going on. You have doubts, but you don't yet know what it is that you are dealing with. You say you found some texts on his mobile, so perhaps you have been feeling suspicious for some time. I know you must be feeling terribly anxious right now, but if you want to know what is happening then you will have to ask him outright. Obviously you won’t want to start by accusing him of something he hasn’t done, but I do think you need to voice your concerns, as you have a right to know what is happening and you need him to put your mind at rest. If he loves you, surely he won't mind doing that for you?

I sincerely hope your suspicions are unfounded. You know where we are if you need us!!


chilla
(member)
19/09/2008 14:29
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Kate1 /ChrissiFi - I am an optimist.

BeauSoleil
(member)
19/09/2008 14:31
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

I had to do the working away bit for almost 18 months and never felt that I would be justified in doing anything I shouldn't. Yes I did feel like a cash cow sometimes when I got home but that still doesn't justify doing the wrong thing-I just shouted alot and let them all know how I felt!! He could do the same if that's how he feels.

kate1
(member)
21/09/2008 14:16
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Maddy 1,
I don't want to invade your privacy, but wondered how you are.xxxxxxxxxxx


ChrissiFi
(member)
21/09/2008 19:34
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Hi Maddy, I hope you've had a good weekend and found time for a heart to heart.

Thinking of you,

Chriss
x


MancGirl
(member)
23/09/2008 22:38
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

Hi Maddy,

Maybe your husband is in the wrong, but many people have condemned him here, and I would hate you to wrongly accuse him.

Paranoia and jealousy are very damaging - particularly for the person feeling them.

My husband is the kind of person women turn to with their problems. He would not hesitate in opening the door and listening to someone at 11pm. That is just his nature. I used to get jealous over texts, particularly those from women who I did not know, and who he seemed to have formed friendships with.

It seemed to work for me to meet them - takes the mystery out of it all. I appreciate you can't join them for a drink after work, but if she is a biker, I bet she would love to come up to Cumbria and go out on the bike for the day with your husband, as you mention this is what they have in common. You could invite her up one weekend. I have done similar and explained to my then fiance, that I was feeling a bit jealous, and wanted to go out with him and his female friend for a drink so that I would feel more comfortable about his friendship with her.

I am sure other women are reading my message and thinking that I am very naive (and maybe as a newly wed I am) but I have been through the same doubts as you in the past... all of which were unfounded, and I really just want you to think of another tactic - accusing him of something he might not have done could damage your relationship for no reason.

MancGirl


Rosey46
(member)
24/09/2008 11:45
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

It seems strange that most of us are pondering as to whether he is or isn't having a physical relationship with this other woman. I've always felt that emotional infidelety is somehow worse.

And I have to ask, - does he not know how to delete texts he's received? Why would he leave them on his phone, knowing you might see them?

I'm sorry you're in such a difficult situation but I agree with others here who have said -Talk to him!

Best wishes
Rosey


ChrissiFi
(member)
25/09/2008 08:57
Re: Husband and his female work colleague

MancGirl,
you sound very, very sensible to me. Your OH and mine sound very similar from the 'shoulder to cry on' side. I want to post an update on the situation with my OH and his work colleague but it's going to take a bit of typing as OH needs some advice. Will try lunchtime...

Chrissi


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