well thanks to all for your comments it has really helped to think there are a lot of you out there who empathise. it's going well will tell you weight loss next tuesday on first of my own weigh-ins!! have kept to diet (it is from w& h magazine a couple of months back) and hope it works as well as cheese diet i did last year. as i have to lose a lot and keep it off i thought this might be a good one. have dieted three times with pills and doctors and have lost 25 kilos each times only to put it all back on and more so now it's a case of slowly change the lifestyle but to a sustainable one. sounds very green don't you think!! even if it's really black and red! ha!ha!