Thimble... there is nothing wrong with banter and friendship, it's what we have, though we do have lots of cuddles and kisses. Just celibate... no big deal, we talked about it, agreed it was the way for us to go, and life became so much easier once it was all talked about and decided upon. I wrote a posting about the article on one of the forums, commenting on magazine contents I think it was, and the only response I got agreed that there are many facets to making a WHOLE marriage, and I feel we all have to pick and mix from them to get the marriage that suits us, suits our partners, is right for us at the point in our lives we find ourselves at...