thanks Ashbee, i'll hand over at 5 and take the job back on around 6. Not sure what the rules are for ignoring on this forum. On trucknet I'm ignoring a post and have been doing for around 3 months now, but we are subject to the working time directive, tacho hours and used to working a shift system. I'm worried that this will all fall on Ozziekez's shoulders when it's night in the UK.